
Picture Streets has been suffering from a big of 'blog neglect'. Let's carry it into the next month with something fitting...
Wait Til June - The Go-Betweens
The Untied States are Colin Arnstein (vocals and guitar), Skip Engelbrecht (guitar, bass, and effects), Darren Tablan (synthesizers and bass), and Satchel Mallon (drums).
Is this your first time in Pittsburgh?
Colin: Yeah, it's our first time.
You guys are gonna spend some time in the city, maybe, and check out some things?
Colin: Yeah. Yeah, we're gonna check it out tomorrow 'cause we have, uh, I think we have a good break. We're only goin' to Columbus, so...
Skip: How far is Columbus? Do you know? Three hours?
Four hours maybe? Something like that. Definitely not as bad as what you guys had already pulled last night. You guys came in from
Colin: After what we pulled, exactly. Right.
How was the show in
Colin: It was, uh, interesting. It was at a really cool place.
Skip: We played RISD, the school of design.
Colin: It's called the Tap Room.
Skip: It was, like, the Talking Heads had played there before or something. That's what they said.
Tap Room? Do they have a good beer selection there or something?
Colin: Uh, no. It was a university deal. They had money so they paid us well.
Skip: We had to sign that W-9 or something to get the money, really…
Colin: Very professional.
Skip: But it was in their Memorial Hall and it was, like, pretty swank. You know, but it was kids—Monday night and it's finals week and supposedly that school has, like, the heaviest load in the country.
Now, the band hails from
Colin: That's interesting. There's a lot going on there. There are pretty much kind of two big groups out of there.
Skip: Deerhunter and Black Lips.
Colin: And Mastodon.
Skip: We know all these people, pretty well.
Colin: I think we fit in a different category between them. You've got, you know, Black Lips—really garage-y primal rock. Then, Deerhunter's ethereal. And then, obviously, we're nothing like Mastodon. We fit somewhere in between.
(motorcycle flies by)
Colin: That's our amp starting up! (laughing)
You guys are playing
Colin: Yeah, because i think people are more enthusiastic. We played a couple shows. We just played in East Hampton, which is in
Skip: It's always less pretentious. and people feel free to be loose. And, they consider themselves artists too.
Colin: Yeah, there's more like a communal back-and-forth kinda thing… and, the kids are going nuts as well.
I actually took that from an Ian MacKaye interview, and he also said the same things. You know, because he's also trying to get out of the 'black boxes'…
Colin: Exactly, because clubs are just… it's a weird thing. You walk in the door, you pay money…
Skip: They're not friendly for people to go into.
Satchel: Well, i think they're kinda used to a bunch of assholes all the time, drinking…
Colin: They stink, cigarettes…
Satchel: Beer, and they're all fucking black. They’re depressing.
Let’s talk about the record. Untied States' material capsulizes a sense of alienation and paranoia.
Skip: (laughing)
Colin: Interesting.
Satchel: Great.
I was thinking kind of a jaggedy retelling of OK Computer. Now, I understand that you guys construct each of the tracks in such a way to get certain emotional responses out of the listeners. What “strings” do you like to tug at?
Colin: I think the best analysis of what we do is that we are kind of answering to a world that wants this instantaneous gratification; this “I gotta have everything.” We're kind of answering that tempo that is set.
Aptly titled on the album.
Colin: Yeah, right, exactly, it's like the promise of everything; the emptiness.
Skip: The alienation thing is something that we definitely don't want, though…
Colin: We're just products from our environment.
Does that spawn from the scene in
Colin: No, we're really personable guys.
The band is embraced very well there.
Colin: Yeah, yeah… it’s just different. We don’t try to do anything on purpose. We just say what we feel, you know. While we made that record, it was pretty crazy.
With all of the off-metered time signatures that you feature in your music, it's almost expedient to assume that everyone in the band enjoys listening to their share of progressive music and art-rock. Who do you guys like to study?
Colin: Well, the thing that we kind of get weird with is we don't like the word 'progressive'.
They kind of did away with that word.
Colin: Yeah, it just implies… we’re not musical nerds. I mean, Darren and I have a little bit of classical background. But, we all take from big ideas, you know, we like big things. And, I like a lot of older music just because the arrangements were wilder. We're not trying to do anything that's complicated. We just want to make a good song.
Skip: As far as groups, I mean it's endless. When you listen to some of our songs, you can pull a melody from an old Beatles song, you know, and then weird stuff from other others. We like all kinds of stuff. We like all music, so...
I was hearing a lot of different influences on the album.
Colin: I guess anytime you do anything as an artist that's obviously too “something”, you wanna go and not make it so...
Fuck it up a little bit or something.
Colin: Exactly.
Because of those winding progressions and the tempo shifts, do you guys ever have trouble playing older material because you forget all the parts?
Satchel: You have to relearn...
Colin: When we make our record, there're a couple of tracks that we made, you know, we kind of built them up from all these places. We had a sample from one night drunk at the house, and then a sample of where it stops. Sometimes, we have to learn it from the recording.
Skip: The prior record, if you asked me to play one of those songs, i'd be like 'fuck you'. (laughing)
Colin: We want to get to the point where we're doing the oldies, but we've always been doing fresh music. We're doing three new songs tonight that aren't on the record.
Yeah, I had heard something about an EP?
Colin: We're working on it. We just laid some basic stuff. When we get back, we're gonna finish it off.
That's great. You have that excitement—you put something down and you just want to release it.
Colin: Absolutely.
Do you guys have any idea how difficult it is to search the words “Untied States” on Google?
Colin: Yeah… (laughing)
There you go. You’d have to contact 'big brother' on that one. Going back to the album, a lot of the songs on Instant Everything, Constant Nothing are so thickly-textured and frenetic, yet all of the band members seem to contribute to the material and complement each other so well. Did any of these songs come together out of a jam or just letting the tape roll, that kind of thing?
How long did it take to put each track together?
That wasn’t the empty warehouse?
Where was this at?
I'll cut that one out. Alright, just to end things up here, what are you guys doing on April 3rd of next year? Do you guys know about this?
Satchel: No…
Colin: Oh God…
WrestleMania XXVII in
Satchel: Oh my God.
Colin: Well, I guess you just told us.
Yeah, there you go. Consider yourselves informed. One of the fastest-growing cities, you’re hosting WrestleMania now.
Colin: Absolutely. (laughing) Skip did the monster truck rally.
Skip: I did the monster truck rally, like, three months ago and it was wild. I would definitely go again.
Colin: Maybe we can play it? (laughing)
See if you can get that gig. That'd be a really sweet gig!
Satchel: They would love us wouldn't they? (laughing)
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